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I like Omega's proposal. I said everything else last time, though and don't really want to rehash my arguments. I think Omega and Jay have covered most of them anyway.
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I have to reiterate a point I posted to Discord that is relevant to the issue of inactivity, although it is not directly relevant to the split itself. What is the definition of an active MoRA?
- Is ist a lot of people and a lot of projects ongoing or - Is it only a few people working but the work is constant, high-quality, well-promoted and are viewed by many. From my personal observation, "active" media and events fall to the second category in many regions that are considered to have good media./event ministries. Only a few very skilled people work on it, but they do it constantly with high-quality and viewership. Roleplay falls to the first category for obvious reason. The more people who roleplay, the better. Integration and graphics are best handled by people who know what they are doing so it falls in the second category. In my opinion, an "active" MoRA or whatever ministries we get after a split is basically it creates "products" that a sizable mass of people use and it does so periodically. (News articles, events,...). It doesn't matter how many people are working or how many newbies we get, even if it is 5 very nerdy people, if the work is done on time and in acceptable quality then it is considered to be active. This vision conformed to a top-heavy structure, where a few experienced people who know their responsibility are the major driver of activities. MoRA is one of the very few discipline that I believe where the majority of active people are experienced people. The current split debate is not at all related to reviving activity from what I heard from some people, it is more of a division of work to relief pressure. If some people want to implement a New Deal-esque integration project and view integration as an infrastructure thing (Integration is done via a set of systemic, procedural and linked programs designed to last for years) then yes, a split is very much appropriate considering the skill set with this kind of work will be very different (E.g. A person who is good at events may not be good at coming up with an urgent welcome message for a surge, a person who is good at journalism may not be good at writing understandable guides and dispatches, a person who can come up with a festival may not know how to come up with a WA program, a person who plans a sport game may not design a program that will work for years throughout generations. It is like the difference between building a stage for a music festival and building roads for a nation, or the difference between making a film and making a multi-season TV show. A hell lot of current MoRA staff will be yelled at or have their application denied by a strict skill-focused recruiter if they join this integration ministry and apply their culture ministry's skills) . The scale of such a project will be very big whoever the MoRA appoints to handle will have to be minister-equivalent in term of managerial power.
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Honestly, Viet being Minister of Integration would be a dream come true.
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It may sound a bit too blunt but I’d create that position just so Viet could have it.
I’ve the date marked down in my calendar in bright bold red
(04-23-2020, 09:04 AM)Amerion Wrote: Like others have stated, our positions on this matter are pretty much entrenched and will unlikely be changed anytime soon. Which, as we can recall, was majority in support of a split. I don't see much point in dragging out the argument -- let's just vote once we have an idea of what exactly a split should look like (what Omega wrote looks good to me). ![[Image: AfI6yZX.png]](https://i.imgur.com/AfI6yZX.png){kind=small} ~ Aumeltopia ~
Even though the idea of appointing the PM seems dead given the clear distaste for it, I do want to point out that I think breaking up RA and having the PM appoint people are moving in two different directions. So, if we're supporting this — which would be smaller ministers — we shouldn't also be combining everything in to one huge ministry (essentially) run by the PM.
I'm clearly more in favor of this than the other proposal, but think we should have some internally consistent logic in which direction we're moving as a region.
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I just wanted to respond to a few things:
I am not trying to copy other GCRs. The point of that argument was simply to highlight the extraordinary amount of pressure we put on our MoRA compared to other liberal feeders through an uncharacteristically large mandate. I specifically changed the wording to exclude "Regional Affairs" because the region's zeitgeist has an idea what a MoRA does and while both of these are similar, we need to make it clear that these are new, and different organizations, with new and different mandates than MoRA had. Yes, I understand no one probably changed their minds but I thought that doing this alone, and separate from two other proposals would hopefully allow for us to have a clearer debate on a single, specific proposal, as opposed to debating three proposals at the same time. I will draft an enabling resolution for the amendment so it takes effect at the conclusion of the incumbent cabinet. Assembly Resolution on the Ministry of Regional Affairs Wrote: Above all else, I hope to be a decent person.
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