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[FAILED] Private voting
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#21
08-28-2020, 11:31 AM

If the concern is that the Election Commissioner might rig an election by inventing or suppressing ballots, that says more about us than it does about the merits of private voting.
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#22
08-28-2020, 11:57 AM

(08-28-2020, 08:42 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Is there reason to believe that an Election Commissioner has tampered with, or would tamper with, election data?

Is there reason not to?
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08-28-2020, 12:21 PM

I feel confident in our 17 years of fairly conducted elections. Our democratic record speaks for itself.
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#24
08-28-2020, 12:24 PM

(08-28-2020, 08:42 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Is there reason to believe that an Election Commissioner has tampered with, or would tamper with, election data?

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't - we're giving a couper an easy tool to make their coup look legitimate.
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08-28-2020, 12:33 PM

Just because it can happen is no reason to act as if it will. Saying that all-private voting will lead to rigged elections is simply misleading because it presents it as a given, rather than as a risk to be addressed.
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08-29-2020, 06:13 AM

(08-28-2020, 11:00 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: While I'm all for accountability, I do think the morphing of this discussion from "private voting" to "HoW dO wE kNoW tHe ElEcTiOn CoMmIsIon IsN't RiGgInG tHe ElEcTiOn?" a bit problematic.

No no no no, we all trust your job, we are just saying if secret ballots happen this can happen and we are not doubting you work.
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08-29-2020, 06:16 AM

(08-28-2020, 12:33 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Just because it can happen is no reason to act as if it will. Saying that all-private voting will lead to rigged elections is simply misleading because it presents it as a given, rather than as a risk to be addressed.

No one is saying all (if someone said I will sue that person Happywide), we are saying in some it is possible and bribing is a possibility in this case so its better for sake prevention we make many people a part of election commission.
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08-29-2020, 09:06 AM

(08-29-2020, 06:13 AM)Whole India Wrote:
(08-28-2020, 11:00 AM)Tsunamy Wrote: While I'm all for accountability, I do think the morphing of this discussion from "private voting" to "HoW dO wE kNoW tHe ElEcTiOn CoMmIsIon IsN't RiGgInG tHe ElEcTiOn?" a bit problematic.

No no no no, we all trust your job, we are just saying if secret ballots happen this can happen and we are not doubting you work. 

Agreed. I think I'm with Kris in that its the tone/phrasing of some of the comment rather than the actual concern.

Again, though, the way to do this would be for there to be at least two ECs so there's a check.
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08-29-2020, 09:11 AM

Have we got any evidence of newbies voting with the majority in General Elections?
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08-30-2020, 09:11 AM

(08-28-2020, 12:33 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: Just because it can happen is no reason to act as if it will. Saying that all-private voting will lead to rigged elections is simply misleading because it presents it as a given, rather than as a risk to be addressed.

No-one has said all-private voting will lead to rigged elections, I asked a question, I did not make a statement.
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