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PASSED: Regional Communications Act
#31

Here's an idea along the pushing legislative agendas idea:
Pushing a legislative agenda- which shall be defined as any act that may sway someone to vote a certain way in a binding poll or vote.
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#32

(08-15-2016, 09:45 AM)Belschaft Wrote: I'm absolutely not proposing that anyone create a frenzy. I am simply arguing that the political representatives of regional WA members should not be prevented from communicating with said  regional WA members on political matters.

I'm not sure that would meet the criteria I'm looking for Tsu; if - for example - I author legislation increasing the weighting of the LC block vote, I would view it as an appropriate course of action to inform regional WA members about what the bill does and recommend they vote for it. The LC is elected to act as representative and advocate; we have to be allowed to do that.

Good. As I said, I'm looking to avoid the former — as I'm sure w all are. However, I do see potential to get from the "communicating ... political matters" to creating a frenzy. Especially if someone is suggesting legislation and then creating a massive campaign about it, it could certainly upset upset the entire region if handled incorrectly.

In regard to my proposal, if you wrote the legislation, wouldn't Punch and/or Erinor be able to do the polling and mass TGing for it? Or heck, even the MoRA, the CoA or the Delegate could pass along the information, no?

On a similar note, though, who exactly is the LC advocating to? I'm not sure the advocating needs to be done toward the gameside region, per se. It's done on behalf of and for, but not necessarily to. So, since the legislation is really looking at communication to the gameside, not about the gameside, we should be able to split the representing and advocating functions.
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#33

This debate is so insanely funny.
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#34

You simply shouldn't be making any recommendations at all. It's really not a hard concept. Mentioning that it will increase the percentage is perfectly fine, since that is pure fact, but a recommendation is not okay. I honestly can't believe that a debate on such a simple topic could be this hard to sort out.
#35

(08-15-2016, 04:38 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote: This debate is so insanely funny.

Maybe I should actually read Assmebly threads if they're funny.
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#36

It's funny because it's so ridiculous.
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#37

Guys we need to get draft language here and vote on something. If we don't this is never going to happen.
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#38

Why is the LC even using the Mass Telegrams? I mean, I know why it's b being done right now, but it was not intended to be used this way.
The Charter language on the LC Communications, in my opinion, is written with the intention to avoid the use of Mass TG's, and instead for them to use Dispatches and the RMB to promote activity and discussion.

Here are the issues I have with Telegrams:
1. First, and most obvious, is the potential for abuse to use them to push one's own agenda. Providing biased or one-sided information, or even directly stating which way people should vote.
2. This is essentially a one-way form of communication. Yes, individuals can respond one on one to the sender, but it eliminates group discussion on the game side level.
3. It is slightly bothersome to the region to constantly receive Mass TG's. We need to remember that the Regional Community does want to have input in the Offsite Government, but that not EVERY person in TSP wants that. We are forcing it on people who may not want it.

This, I believe, is why the Charter may attempt to limit the use of Mass TG's by requiring the Delegates approval, while Dispatches are fair game without approval. The LC should be using dispatches, and the RMB, to promote discussion and activity among the game side. This will also eliminate pushing this stuff on people who may not want any part of it.
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#39

(08-17-2016, 09:32 AM)Kris Kringle Wrote: It's funny because it's so ridiculous.

Which part in particular?
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#40

(08-17-2016, 01:09 PM)Drugged Monkeys Wrote: Why is the LC even using the Mass Telegrams? I mean, I know why it's b being done right now, but it was not intended to be used this way.
The Charter language on the LC Communications, in my opinion, is written with the intention to avoid the use of Mass TG's, and instead for them to use Dispatches and the RMB to promote activity and discussion.

Here are the issues I have with Telegrams:
1. First, and most obvious, is the potential for abuse to use them to push one's own agenda. Providing biased or one-sided information, or even directly stating which way people should vote.
2. This is essentially a one-way form of communication. Yes, individuals can respond one on one to the sender, but it eliminates group discussion on the game side level.
3. It is slightly bothersome to the region to constantly receive Mass TG's. We need to remember that the Regional Community does want to have input in the Offsite Government, but that not EVERY person in TSP wants that. We are forcing it on people who may not want it.

This, I believe, is why the Charter may attempt to limit the use of Mass TG's by requiring the Delegates approval, while Dispatches are fair game without approval. The LC should be using dispatches, and the RMB, to promote discussion and activity among the game side. This will also eliminate pushing this stuff on people who may not want any part of it.

If this is the case I say we approve this act and amend the charter to reflect that.
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