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Following the recent court case regarding mass TGs, I thought something like this might be in order.
I want to stress, this isn't anything personal, but rather an attempt to stop potential problems before they happen. Quote: I based this off of the Regional Officers Act, but I'm happy to make changes. Ultimately, I think we need something to place to make sure that people — including the delegate — are not abusing their powers.
-tsunamy
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I like this however I think we need to define what constitutes pushing an agenda and not leave that up to the courts.
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Yes, I also like this, but fear that without more specificity the resulting ambiguity will plague the judiciary for some time. I'll try and make some suggestions later, but it's probably best left to the more politically and legally minded of us.
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I think there's a real risk that this would do little more than transfer political disagreements to the court; who, after all, defines what a "particular legislative agenda" is?
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If it's any more than notifying that there's a vote ongoing, then that would be pushing a legislative agenda. That seems simple to me.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk (08-13-2016, 12:35 PM)sandaoguo Wrote: If it's any more than notifying that there's a vote ongoing, then that would be pushing a legislative agenda. That seems simple to me.If it seems simple to you, but apparently not to others, that's when you legislate it more specifically. Otherwise you and the others will disagree and it'll go to the judiciary again. I might not be the most politically savvy here, but I can see a pattern when it emerges. Founder of the Church of the South Pacific [Forum Thread] [Discord], a safe place to discuss spirituality for people of all faiths and none (currently looking for those interested in prayer and/or "home" groups);
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"Conveying any ounce of opinion on an item before the Assembly is prohibited."
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Define opinion. You could make the argument that how the legislation is described - for example, "Discretionary powers of the Chair of the Assembly" - counts as an opinion.
I think this is one big legal mess waiting to happen, and just opens up the inevitably of me being taken to court again the next time there's an Assembly vote. Minister of Media, Subversion and Sandwich Making
Associate Justice of the High Court and Senior Moderator
(08-13-2016, 01:42 PM)Belschaft Wrote: Define opinion. You could make the argument that how the legislation is described - for example, "Discretionary powers of the Chair of the Assembly" - counts as an opinion. Here's my concern and what I was hoping to addressed with that clause. Right now, our system is susceptible to pitting people against each other. Whether that is the LC trying to take power from the Assembly or the delegate trying to drum up support for a coup. "Pushing legislative agendas" — as I envisioned — would be telling people to vote for "x". As I see it, we have a difference between providing information (ie. Bel's TG today) and rallying support for a cause. If someone has better wording — great. This was the best I could come up with when writing this.
-tsunamy
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The problem with that is Tsu, when you look at the previous regional poll - where the TG I sent out provided information - I ended up in court because some people didn't like the information I provided.
Honest to god, whilst I like your intentions with this I can't see it achieving anything but resulting in the Local Council Assembly Representative being brought to court once a month. Minister of Media, Subversion and Sandwich Making
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