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[PASSED] [2227.AB] Abolishing MoM — AMoMendment to Article 6 of the Charter
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06-17-2022, 04:38 PM

 

 
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[2227.AB]

Legislators,

Please be advised that the vote to amend Article 6 of the Charter of the South Pacific has been opened. The vote has been designated in the Assembly official record as A2206.02 and is referred to in full as Amendment to Article 6 of the Charter. This is a constitutional law and as such will remain at vote for 5 days.

Legislators may cast their vote here.
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#33
06-17-2022, 11:34 PM

(06-17-2022, 01:05 PM)HumanSanity Wrote: These arguments are confusing to me.

If you've been in the loop about Bels' campaigns for the the past year, you know he simply wants to obliterate all public media and is proposing an amendment to do so because he now has an electoral mandate for it. He's not going to be interested in some sort of "moving it around" proposal.

If you disagree with that, you're free to vote against it. I'm still a bit undecided on whether I'll vote against or abstain. But the argument "Media's functions should be offloaded somewhere" is not a compromise to Belschaft's proposal. It's the opposite of it.

I'll also say I disagree with a "move it around" proposal. There's little difference between having a Media Ministry and an Appointed-TSJ-Officer or Moved-to-Engagement/Culture option in terms of the issues Media has faced in the past

Honestly, who cares about what Bel wants? The idea of like "it's his proposal, vote yes or no" is ridiculous; the Assembly doesn't have to listen to someone who has railed against this position since its inception.

The idea that someone can just start a private newspaper shows a complete lack for how this community has worked recently. In the past, basically someone would volunteer for the SPINN or whatever and the delegate (or someone in charge) would let them take it over. However, that's not how things work in the region anymore. The administrators aren't just start random forums if someone decides they want to start up a newspaper.

Ultimately, if the MoM goes without a wind-down plan, it — and everything else is gone. Bel has just said as much as he's willing to the all the dispatches from MoM CTE.

Writing a clause like "The Cabinet is allowed to appoint an editor of the Southern Journal or other official news outlet as they need see fit" would suffice to give someone power to establish a media organization in the future. 

If this proposal goes through, I would encourage the PM or the Cabinet to find a way to archive the in-game dispatches.
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06-18-2022, 12:53 AM

(06-17-2022, 11:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: The administrators aren't just start random forums if someone decides they want to start up a newspaper.

Maybe they should start doing so.
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06-18-2022, 09:35 AM

(06-17-2022, 11:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Ultimately, if the MoM goes without a wind-down plan, it — and everything else is gone. Bel has just said as much as he's willing to the all the dispatches from MoM CTE.

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If this proposal goes through, I would encourage the PM or the Cabinet to find a way to archive the in-game dispatches.
Just to note here, I've got TSP Minister of Media on my autologin and I've been running it every week to make sure that it continues to, you know, exist with all of my other puppets.

I'll not be taking it off my autologin unless the Prime Minister or the Minister of Media tells me to do so.
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06-18-2022, 09:49 AM

(06-17-2022, 11:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: Ultimately, if the MoM goes without a wind-down plan, it — and everything else is gone. Bel has just said as much as he's willing to the all the dispatches from MoM CTE.

Just for the record, in case this is a concern you and others have, this is not quite true. Even if a nation ceases to exist its dispatches remain on the site. You can use this page to search the dispatches of former nations.
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06-19-2022, 04:11 PM

(06-18-2022, 12:53 AM)Comfed Wrote:
(06-17-2022, 11:34 PM)Tsunamy Wrote: The administrators aren't just start random forums if someone decides they want to start up a newspaper.

Maybe they should start doing so.

While, broadly, I'd say the admin team shouldn't be in charge of doing such things, I'll leave this open to the rest of the admin team to address.
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06-22-2022, 04:38 PM


 
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[2227.AB]

(A2206.02)

Legislators,

Please be advised that the vote to amend Article 6 of the Charter has passed.

Legislators may view the results here.
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06-23-2022, 04:24 PM

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Conveniently they did a new Camus comic this week.
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#40
06-23-2022, 06:00 PM

They say Belschaft is yielding his power and stepping away. I wasn’t aware that was something a person could do.
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