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(04-13-2015, 11:29 PM)FederationOfTheRK Wrote: As a former Resident of the Pacific, And having seen Krull and his minions as the nasty, horrible people they are, I do feel that this would be extremely unfair to people like me, which probably makes up most formers of the NPO. You would Punish us solely because we used to be associated with them? I'm out there, helping Lazarus fight back, and I come check to find this? Yes, of course, there are people like AMOM, Who are the equivalent of devotees, but, that doesn't make up most of us. And punishing us for association with them, will only make more like AMOM, not less. I did move away from there about the second day of my nation, feeling as if I wouldn't fit much over there. However, was it really that bad?
If we're going to do this, is it necessary to cover citizens in general, as opposed to past/present members of government?
Here's a partial list of players I think this would end up covering: A mean old man Laws and Bylaws Elegarth Pierconium Aleisyr Feux Milograd Krulltopia (04-13-2015, 11:42 PM)Bonaugure Wrote: I did move away from there about the second day of my nation, feeling as if I wouldn't fit much over there. However, was it really that bad? Based on the NPO's recent actions, because I haven't been there in a while, I'm going to say Yes, it was, and Yes, it still is.
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(04-13-2015, 11:32 PM)Ryccia Wrote: This could sour TSP-TP Relations after the Lazarus Coup to the bottom. And I don't wanna see them as our enemies. *Hides* What relations? (04-13-2015, 11:33 PM)FederationOfTheRK Wrote: I'm pretty sure he said "Anyone who was ever involved with the NPO", But, I may be suffering from off-and-on blindness. The purpose of that law is to prevent members of prohibited groups from coming here. If you are not a member of a prohibited group, there is nothing to do to you in the first place. Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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Additionally, does this legally fall under Article 7? It seems SB's concerns are about what kind of threat the NPO may be to TSP. Article 7 seems to require that the NPO have actually attacked us or planned to attack us. I agree that they're threats, but similar to The Empire issue, this may be a matter of requesting the Cabinet take action.
(04-13-2015, 11:52 PM)Kris Kringle Wrote:(04-13-2015, 11:33 PM)FederationOfTheRK Wrote: I'm pretty sure he said "Anyone who was ever involved with the NPO", But, I may be suffering from off-and-on blindness. Just remember, "purpose" and "interpretation" are two VERY, VERY different things. My worry is the interpretation. You can have it as a "Purpose" as much as you want, but the moment one person interprets differently from it's purpose, the law changes from it's original intention.
An eye for an eye just makes the whole world go blind.
~Mahatma Gandhi
Resentine, I encourage you to read Article 7. You will see what I mean.
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Um...I don't mean this to sound the wrong way, but do you see in Article 7 any reference to former members of prohibited groups? Because unless there is, I fail to see what you should be worried about.
Former Delegate of the South Pacific
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