I think Scotland would have a very hard time getting adopted into the Council. The collaboration is based on common history and culture. Even though Scots and Scandinavians may share some history and cultural values, the common consent in the Nordic countries would be a feeling that Scotland is too far away in these matters. I believe people would think of this as a little crazy, but also flattering.
Estonia (along with the other Baltic states) actually wanted a membership after its independence from the Soviet Union, but was refused, despite being closer in distance and having a language very similar to one of the member states.
The role of importance Scotland might have regarding the defence of Scandinavia is as base of NATO forces. However, only Denmark, Norway and Iceland are members of NATO. Sweden and Finland are not, but may become so in the future. But yes, Sweden today relies heavily on help from friendly nations if attacked.
What the Council does today is mostly promoting cultural collaboration and also dealing with school matters. Its significance in other areas decreased as the EU was established.

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I disagree with you I think Scotland would be accepted into the council however I can't see us wanting to join the group and there has be no discussion about it in the referendum debate.

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The fact is there'll be no official currency union (they have no reason to take the risk), joining the EU will take time and will likely require adopting the Euro, and the oil and gas will be gone within a couple decades.

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Not to mention all of the major banks headquartered in Scotland have basically vowed to relocate to London, if Scotland votes yes.

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There has to be a currency union for so many reasons but I will just give you two. 1. If Westminster wants us to take any of the debt we have to keep using the pound. 2. The UK is Scotland's biggest trading partner and Scotland is the UK's biggest trading partner. It would make it harder for business in the UK to trade with Scottish business and so it would damage the UK's economy.

Yes I agree that joining the EU will take time however we will NOT need to adopted the Euro many counties in the EU don't use the Euro one of which is the UK. Oil and gas means little now Scotland is moving away from dirty fuels, we make a huge profit without oil and gas, oil and gas are just a bonus.

I think you will find that they said they would move their headquartered to London. This makes sense I think you will also find all banks have said to their workers that their jobs are fine.

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There has to be a currency union for so many reasons but I will just give you two. 1. If Westminster wants us to take any of the debt we have to keep using the pound.

That doesn't even make sense. There's such a thing as currency exchange, you know.

2. The UK is Scotland's biggest trading partner and Scotland is the UK's biggest trading partner. It would make it harder for business in the UK to trade with Scottish business and so it would damage the UK's economy.

I'll concede there is some validity to this point.

Yes I agree that joining the EU will take time however we will NOT need to adopted the Euro many counties in the EU don't use the Euro one of which is the UK.

Spain seems to claim otherwise about the Euro.

Oil and gas means little now Scotland is moving away from dirty fuels, we make a huge profit without oil and gas, oil and gas are just a bonus.

Then why have most of your economic arguments been based off the oil?

I think you will find that they said they would move their headquartered to London. This makes sense I think you will also find all banks have said to their workers that their jobs are fine.

The problem here is not of jobs but Economics. Scotland loses the economic stability those banks can provide. They don't want to deal with the economic uncertainty, and Scotland will not have the reserves that would keep its currency stable.

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I'm not convinced that we should have to "join" the EU. We're already in the EU.

If anything, the precedent is that if any part of a reformed state was a member prior to the reformation, then all affected components are in. Consider East Germany becoming a part of the EU by virtue of the re-unification (1990, IIRC).

Looking at it another way - the RUK will not be the same state which joined. Why would they not have to re-apply?

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There has to be a currency union for so many reasons but I will just give you two. 1. If Westminster wants us to take any of the debt we have to keep using the pound.

That doesn't even make sense. There's such a thing as currency exchange, you know.
It makes perfect sense it's not my fault you can't see common sense.

2. The UK is Scotland's biggest trading partner and Scotland is the UK's biggest trading partner. It would make it harder for business in the UK to trade with Scottish business and so it would damage the UK's economy.

I'll concede there is some validity to this point.
There is huge point and truth in this.

Yes I agree that joining the EU will take time however we will NOT need to adopted the Euro many counties in the EU don't use the Euro one of which is the UK.

Spain seems to claim otherwise about the Euro.
Spain is saying this as they want to stop their own nationals in Catalonia.

Oil and gas means little now Scotland is moving away from dirty fuels, we make a huge profit without oil and gas, oil and gas are just a bonus.

Then why have most of your economic arguments been based off the oil?
Because the No side is using this as one of their best cards.

I think you will find that they said they would move their headquartered to London. This makes sense I think you will also find all banks have said to their workers that their jobs are fine.

The problem here is not of jobs but Economics. Scotland loses the economic stability those banks can provide. They don't want to deal with the economic uncertainty, and Scotland will not have the reserves that would keep its currency stable.

It makes no difference where headquarters are.

A very poor attack by you I'm afraid.

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It makes no difference where headquarters are.

Actually, it does, for tax, regulation, legal, and lending purposes; a migration out of Scotland by banks could destroy the economy by making lending more difficult and thus leading to a drying up of liquidity. Plus, without liquidity, you can't finance the extraction of that precious oil that you guys talk about so much.

A very poor attack by you I'm afraid.

A very good argument by him, and a poor rebuttal on your side.


Also, the referendum appears to be notably leaning to the "No" side, although it's still important for all "Yes" voters to show up, as the result appears to be close-ish.

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It makes no difference where headquarters are.

Actually, it does, for tax, regulation, legal, and lending purposes; a migration out of Scotland by banks could destroy the economy by making lending more difficult and thus leading to a drying up of liquidity. Plus, without liquidity, you can't finance the extraction of that precious oil that you guys talk about so much.

A very poor attack by you I'm afraid.

A very good argument by him, and a poor rebuttal on your side.


Also, the referendum appears to be notably leaning to the "No" side, although it's still important for all "Yes" voters to show up, as the result appears to be close-ish.

No all banks have been clear that moving the headquarters was to protect them. he Yes side has accepted this and we know it's in their best interest.

No it was not a good attack by him I have beat his attacks like a hot knife through butter. Every attack by the No side has been defeated.

I think you'll find most polls have been giving a boost to the Yes side and a fall to the No side. Yes most polls have said that the No side has a lead but not a large lead. Just a narrow lead and the poll of polls (the average of all polls from one period of time) have shown a increases for the Yes side.

Please if your going to post a attack make sure to read your facts and make sure their true. Also make them strong but I like hearing everyone's option even if I don't agree.

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